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The Center for a Stateless Society ( is an anarchist think-tank and media center. Its mission is to explain and defend the idea of vibrant social cooperation without aggression, oppression, or centralized authority.

In particular, it seeks to enlarge public understanding and transform public perceptions of anarchism, while reshaping academic and movement debate, through the production and distribution of market anarchist media content, both scholarly and popular.

It is also the home of Mutual Exchange Radio, a new podcast on anarchist thought, hosted by Zachary Woodman. The show brings together a wide variety of guests, from academics, to on-the-ground activists, to Center scholars, to entrepreneurs to discuss the latest developments in the philosophy and practice of market anarchism.

Sep 25, 2021

In this episode of MER, Alex McHugh interview Gus diZerega on his work around democracy as a spontaneous order.

Gus is a retired professor with a Ph.D in Political Science from the University of California, Berkeley. He is now an independent scholar and has been involved in an ongoing back and forth on libertarianism with our own Roderick Long.

Read more about Gus diZerega at

Reading list:

  • "Democracies are Spontaneous Orders, not States, and Why It is Important," Cosmos + Taxis, []
  • "Outgrowing Methodological Individualism: Emergence, spontaneous orders, and civil society," Cosmos + Taxis, []
  • "Spontaneous Order and Liberalism’s Complex Relation to Democracy," The Independent Review, []
  • Ours: The Case For Universal Property, Peter Barnes []
  • "Turning the Tables: The Pathologies and Unrealized Promise of Libertarianism," Molinari Review, []